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Namekagon
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Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 31 Location: Midwest, US |
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Tips to keep bears away |
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What are some of your tips for keeping the bears away. This summer I will be heading to an area that has quite a few black bears in the area, I was hoping some of you had some good tips. I already have a bell on my backpack, I will have my whistle around my neck, and hopefully I will never have to use my "bear spray."
I'm very curious about what some good tips are once you already set up camp, and other alerts when hiking?
Thanks guys
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| Thu May 03, 2007 10:41 am |
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Daffy
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Joined: 24 Sep 2006 Posts: 1256 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada |
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bear bells are always ideal, good idea putting them on your back pack. With the whistle around your neck, make sure it is on a rope or chain that will break under a bit of force. If you were to fall down a hill and it got hung up on something you could end up hanging...
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| Thu May 03, 2007 11:34 am |
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Namekagon
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Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 31 Location: Midwest, US |
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yeah, good idea I have a lanyard with velcro so it can just pull off with a quick tug.
Does marking your territory by going to the bathroom work or is it a myth?
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| Thu May 03, 2007 11:47 am |
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TrooperMax
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Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Posts: 3502 Location: Orleans, Ontario, Canada |
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Good idea indeed. Daffy I never thought about that but it does seem like a very plausible and possible situation...
The Wistle I think is your best bet for far distance, it works good on other animals too so its my primary source of defense. I dont have any bear spray but am considering geting some if I ever go to BC for some hiking (which I plan to).
Haveing a nice handy is a good idea too but its best to use that as a last resort
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| Thu May 03, 2007 1:54 pm |
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Fonly
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Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 575 Location: Northern alberta |
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I allways whistle a toon, heck even sing sometimes, just to let the surrounding animals know your there, most times bear attacks occour when you care the animal, if it knows your there, it'll run off. hopfully 
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| Thu May 03, 2007 2:55 pm |
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NorthernHunter
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Joined: 28 Apr 2007 Posts: 746 Location: Alberta, Canada |
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i dont know i actually like to see them maybe im dumb though lol but i have ran into blackbears before where i was no more than 15feet away but this time of year they have cubs so you better be extra carefull. depending on where your going if your going to be out in the bush alot and your able i would bring a small rifle that you can pack with you like a 30-30 because i say again they do have cubs right now and blacks are worse then grizzlys. but for trying to keep them away just talk even if its to your self so you dont surprise them let them know your in the area bear bells are a good thing to have other than that i dont think you need anything else
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| Thu May 03, 2007 3:16 pm |
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NorthernHunter
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Joined: 28 Apr 2007 Posts: 746 Location: Alberta, Canada |
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where are you off to by the way? im just wondering
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| Thu May 03, 2007 3:17 pm |
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Namekagon
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Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 31 Location: Midwest, US |
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The first week of July I will be spending time in northern Wisconsin, part of the Chequamegon National Forest.
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| Thu May 03, 2007 3:33 pm |
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BushRat
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Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 1002 Location: Toronto |
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In addition to hanging your food in a tree some distance from your tent, set up your cooking and eating area a short distance from your tent. Never take food closer to your tent than this kitchen/dining area.
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| Thu May 03, 2007 3:35 pm |
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Daffy
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Joined: 24 Sep 2006 Posts: 1256 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada |
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All I know is that when i go camping in the bush I pack my pump 12 guage and keep some buckshot neer by. There are things called bear bangers that you can get too. They have a pen like launcher that deploys a small explosive that is very very loud and is used to scare bears away. You can get ones that fire from the pen launchers or from shotguns with an open choke. I have seen these used in residential areas that have developed in bear country to drive bears out of somoenes back yards and back to the woods.
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| Thu May 03, 2007 4:05 pm |
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OGTL
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Joined: 17 Jul 2007 Posts: 376 Location: Northern Ontario, Boreal Forest |
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1. Make noise: Whistle, yell, talk, clap your hands, smack two sticks together
2. Be aware: Always keep your level of awareness high, you can prevent a confrontation this way
3. Don't panic: 99.99 percent of bears don't want anything to do with you either, so if you do see one, don't make eye contact, back away slowly talking in a low, soothing tone. Make sure a cub isn't behind you first. 
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| Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:33 am |
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carcajou garou
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Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 77
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For the noise part just tie one or two bear bells to your ankles or a knee strap that will alert any bear in the area (they have really good hearing).
If you clap hands, sticks, yell, rant, rave, whistle constantly you'll be out of breath, have sore hands and have everybody else within hearing distance mad at you for the cacophony.
Stay alert but relax, thats what you are going into the bush for in the first place right?
Enjoy the bush.
Like Bushrat said, keep the food and cook area away from your tent/sleep site, even tie bell to the foood pack/barrel to give you a few seconds heads up if something happens.
Bear spray is good but know how to use it, practise with a second can and keep a full one your belt/holster within easy access, not in your pack.
Black bears may come close just to see what all that noise was about they are very curious animals, so keep cool and don't over react, don't run you'll just trigger the chase instinct even when they had no intention of it in the first place. (bears can easily outrun a human)
Don't make direct eye contact (may trigger a domination reaction) but keep it in sight.
Keep a calm, even voice, unless an attack IS happening then and only then a sharp yell may startle it and cause it to rethink it aggression.
Un-holster and take safety of the bear spray, stay calm and prepare to use the spray wait till you are sure that you can hit the animal in the eyes or mouth (best) with the spray and that the wind isn't against you.
If no bear spray, make yourself as big as possible, put a t-shirt or piece of clothes over your head to create the illusion of size..in nature bears respect size.
In a sow cub situation keep calm, identify where the cub is and walk slowly and purposely away from both cub and sow without loosing inderect sight of either keep on walking for a while till there is a comfortable space between you and the cub and the sow. Have your bear spray at hand and ready to use.
Black Bears that are in a predatory mode will gauge you before attacking, to see if they can take you with the least damage to themselves, if they figure that they will suffer to much damage eg. a bigger/meaner animal, they may back off, so stay calm, no shrieking like a wounded prey (this could also trigger an attack).
With black bears, once the attack IS happening fight bac with everything you have..never lay down and play dead or very possibly you will be.
I use a hiking staff either an oak or aluminum, it can be used a spacer to keep a bear further away from me in need.
Grizzlies are a different matter entirely, they have different set of triggers. Thats for another post.
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| Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:32 am |
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OGTL
Utah Canyonland Survivor

Joined: 17 Jul 2007 Posts: 376 Location: Northern Ontario, Boreal Forest |
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I'm sorry you felt the need to criticize and belittle every one of my tips.
They all work great, and with no inconvenience. It's not a hardship to be aware of your surroundings, more of a essential part of life in the woods. As you said, bears have great hearing so it's not required to make noise constantly. If I'm setting up in a spot, I make a little noise then go on with my chores. The bells are good idea, but like you I prefer to enjoy my time in the forest and having bells jingling on my pack doesn't enhance my experience.
Good tips on the bear spray, I carry a can in my right pocket myself and it's cheap insurance.
In good spirit, Mike.
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| Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:48 pm |
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carcajou garou
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I didn't critisize every one of your tips only the noise one.
I have met people who did just that, continously clattered about making a din of noise infuriating other hikers on the same trail because they had been told to make noise.
You didn't say occasionaly, you left it open.
Bear bells, many use them. I personaly don't but that is just me
I did say... stay alert but relax...
Sorry for being direct but do not know any other way to share information.
I'll refrain from posting after you in the future if it makes you uncomfortable, OK.. Peace
Now for an extra on the bear spray... a fellow on a national trail, at the trail head took out his can of "Bear Repellents" and assumingly (be careful with that word) following the name sprayed himself all over with "repellent" (you can see where this is going uh? and started to "feel" the effects immediately....2 other hikers found him curled up in a fetal position almost in convulsions alerted the authorities while tring to wash of the "repellent" off the victim and not succombing to the effect themselves pretty brave I thought.
When recovering he admited that he understood the name repellent to be like mosquito repellent and used it accordingly.................
So bear spray towards bear not you.
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| Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:35 pm |
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OGTL
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I'll refrain from posting after you in the future if it makes you uncomfortable, OK.. Peace |
No way, sometimes it's hard to tell over the net and I'm a bit of an ass sometimes, state your opinion, I like a good discussion.
Good tips, I've also been cautioned not to spray them upwind, and I can see why since I inadvertently let some get into my mouth one time. BURNS.
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| Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:04 pm |
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Joined: 17 Apr 2008 Posts: 17 Location: saskatchewan canada |
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hey great tips guys. kind of an old thread but am going camping this week in duck mountain sask and the wife read on the sask parks web site about the black bears in the area and now i am trying to brush up so shes a little calmer.going to pick up some bear spray for her and a couple of those bells. havnt been there in years looking forward to some hiking and fishing!!!
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| Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:49 am |
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Mystik Spiral
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Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 1490 Location: Green Bay, WI |
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 |  | hey great tips guys. kind of an old thread but am going camping this week in duck mountain sask and the wife read on the sask parks web site about the black bears in the area and now i am trying to brush up so shes a little calmer.going to pick up some bear spray for her and a couple of those bells. havnt been there in years looking forward to some hiking and fishing!!! |
Have fun! 
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| Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:33 pm |
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Survivor Kid 909
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This is for you D
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| Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:43 pm |
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Mystik Spiral
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^ LMBO at the last line. 
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| Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:07 pm |
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Survivor Kid 909
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I thought you'd like it.
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