Tasers against big predators.

I wonder if a taser could be a good defense weapon against big predators like bears and Mountain lions.
I know, you can't use it until they are on top of you.
Any thoughts? Cool

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I think that would be possible to use one but, a bears fir is pretty thick, a good chance it would not reach the skin.
A Cougar is possible as well & more likely you may get to the skin as there fir is alittle less thick.
I personaly would be more comfortable with a large fixed blade & bear spray than to rely on a taser.

The bear spray will get in there eyes, mouth, nose for sure & really burn.
And if that does not get the bear/cougar to flee, then it's one on one with my HUGE fixed blade Twisted Evil

" and some praying wont hurt either " Laughing

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I would prefer bear spray as a defense. A taser would be better than nothing, as a last ditch do-or-die method, pretty much on the same level as a knife.

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Yeah, you're probably right.Bear spray have a longer reach than a taser. Cool

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We don't have many bears around here, few mountain lions either.

therefore, I will state that i would be willing to drive anywhere in the nation to witness anyone that wants to test this possible means of defense on either animal. It sould be well worth the trip.

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	Steven wrote:
	Yeah, you're probably right.Bear spray have a longer reach than a taser.

Also, with spray, if your initial aim isn't so good, you can fire another burst or sweep the spray across the target and still have a chance of hitting it. With a taser, once you squeeze the trigger there is no second chance if you miss.

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BushRat wrote:

	Steven wrote:
	Yeah, you're probably right.Bear spray have a longer reach than a taser.

Also, with spray, if your initial aim isn't so good, you can fire another burst or sweep the spray across the target and still have a chance of hitting it. With a taser, once you squeeze the trigger there is no second chance if you miss.

That's the main problem I see with the taser.

I think another problem with taser is that if you touch the animal when using it , you can end up getting tasered you self.
Who wakes up first ,you or the 500 Lbs bear on top of you? Laughing

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No, I don't think that is true. When I've seen guys demonstrate it on TV, there is sometimes a guy on each side of the one being tasered to keep him from falling over. They don't get shocked. It shoots two prongs. The two prongs stick in the victim's skin, they complete the circuit, and ZAP!! You are incapacitated. Besides, if you tasered a bear, you wouldn't want to get near him. After the shock stops, he would be a little ticked off. Shocked

I'd be runnin' like it was going out of fashion. Laughing

I hear you flashlightfreak.

now this is how I remember what to do for each kind of bear.

black bear= B for big (look big)
grizzly=G for ground (go to the ground and cover)

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aparently you want to look big for polor bears too... pretty sure if i'm in bear country i'm carry'n a gun and my reaction will be "point and shoot" for any type that become aggressive.

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Polar bear = P for pray you're not prey.

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oh I didn't think of that one Laughing

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Something else that might work against grizzlies would be to hold up a photo of Anthony Hopkins. Twisted Evil

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	BushRat wrote:
	Something else that might work against grizzlies would be to hold up a photo of Anthony Hopkins.

I guess that's better than a taser. Laughing

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Here are two different accounts of tasers being used on black bears, with different outcomes:

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(01-05) 13:30 PST Milton, Fla. (AP) --
A sheriff's deputy got a shock when a bear came toward him as he searched for a prowler. So
he gave the bear a shock with his Taser.
Homeowner Charlie McQueen Smith called Santa Rosa County deputies Tuesday night after
finding her air conditioner torn from her kitchen window.
Deputy Ray Dykes thought he was looking for a prowler.
"When I pulled up, I saw the reflection of an animal's eyes. It looked like a little bear cub,"
he said.
"I got to about 40 feet and it stood up, and that's when I knew it was fully grown."
Dykes used his Taser gun when the bear got too close.
"He was about seven or eight feet away when I shocked him," he said.
The bear fell to the ground, breaking the connection with the weapon, which administers a
strong electrical charge. The animal fled into the woods and disappeared.
Smith said she's lived in the home since it was built in 1960 and had never seen a bear there
before Friday. The bear showed up then and visited several times over the weekend. Smith
suspects the smell of fried chicken might have enticed it to try and come inside. A trash pit
near the home might also have been a lure, officials said.
If the animal returns, the Florida Wildlife Commission will likely capture and relocate it, said
commission biologist Pat Bowman.
"Between the Taser shock and the garbage removal, I would like to think this bear is going
to stay away," she said.
Black bears are protected by state law.
Monday, May 22, 2006

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Bear spotted near UW killed
Agents say death was accidental
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P-I REPORTER
The parties near Greek Row were in full tilt late Saturday night when Seattle police and
wildlife agents swarmed the University District to capture an odd prowler: a young black
bear that led officers on a wild chase over fences, yards and rooftops until they killed it.
Around 11:30 p.m., someone called police and reported a bear near Northeast 50th Street,
a few blocks north of the fraternity and sorority houses near the University of Washington,
and just west of "The Ave," where a large street fair ended a few hours earlier.
Kim Chandler, an enforcement sergeant with the state Department of Fish and Wildlife, was
in bed on the Eastside when he got the call.
"I have learned over the years to never say never," he said. "When somebody says there's
a bear in their back yard, I pretty much believe them."
By the time he arrived after midnight, 20 officers were blocking intersections and trying to
shoo people away. "We searched yard by yard, and house by house. We couldn't find it.
The streets were full of kids partying," he said.
The bear had moved northeast, to the manicured lawns of Ravenna, near Northeast 55th Street
and 18th Avenue Northeast. Janeen Jenkins, who lives nearby, said she was about to go
to sleep when blue police lights began flashing into her house and officers with flashlights
trampled through yards.

"We're looking for a bear," one officer said, which prompted Jenkins' 18-year-old daughter to
go outside and look for herself. A few minutes later, her daughter said: "Did you see it? It ran
right across our yard!" The bear had darted past the family's rhododendron.
Chandler found the bear wedged under someone's deck. "I laid down and saw him, and he
didn't like that. He huffed and growled at me twice," he said.
He said the bear escaped through the other side of the deck, ran down a gated stairwell and
onto the street. A few minutes later, Chandler shot a tranquilizer dart into it, from a few feet away.
But the bear continued to run, scaling fences and sprinting across a garage rooftop. Then it
disappeared. A few minutes later, another call came in from someone near 20th Avenue Northeast
and Ravenna Boulevard, a few blocks south of wooded Ravenna Park.
Chandler said a police officer used a Taser on the bear. "If you Tase a human, they usually say,
'I give up!' and stay down," he said. But as soon as the officer turned off the Taser, the bear
got up and tried to run.
Chandler sprinted to his truck to retrieve a syringe with more tranquilizers, when he saw a group
of officers running down the street.
"They looked like rats running off a sinking ship," he said. Behind them was the bear. An officer
used the Taser again, and Chandler plunged the syringe into the bear's behind. The bear
struggled and twitched.
"Then all of sudden, he was still," he said.
The bear was dead, apparently from the tranquilizers and shocks from the Taser.
Across the street, a man, who wanted to be identified only as Mark, said he thought police
had someone dangerous in custody. Then he walked outside.
"I realized it wasn't a person," he said. "It's sad it turned out that way."
Chandler said he and officers had wanted to capture the bear and return it to the wild.
He said the bear -- about 3 years old and 150 to 175 pounds -- was likely the same one
spotted in Shoreline last week. It probably walked undetected through the city at night,
feeding on trash.
"The bottom line is, it was not our intention to kill this bear," Chandler said.
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Well, that's a sad ending to that story. It's too bad the bear died. Sad

Yes, It was a sad ending. Sad

And I guess it proves that bears doesn't react the same way humans do . Cool

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Yea pretty sad...thanks Bushrat Cool