A Fire-Bow Demo with AskDaMice

Here is a good vid I found on Youtube.... flawless form... That's what makes it work so easily and fast... don't get discouraged, get inspired!! .... and try not to humm that song all day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkRlGEaTjAk

Rick

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thanks rick

Good luck. Very Happy

You're gonna need it. Laughing

I doubt I'll ever get it. Sad

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Your are making this out to be more difficult than it is..... seriously... the hardest part is realization of how close you've been and what little change took to make ALL the difference.

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The fire bow is very complex, but it is the easiest to repeat when you have mastered it. Our buddy BOW might be able to start a fire with a fire plow easily, but once you have mastered the bow it is the easiest to use out of the other friction fire options. Get it?

It is probably the hardest to learn, but the easiest to repeat once you get it.

I talk like an expert, but I've never had a friction fire. I've come close but no cigar. Laughing

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Your asking Askdamice if he gets it ? Confused

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No, no. I was just explaining myself. I agree with him completely. Smile

Cheers.

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Ah Cool

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Actually, hand drill is trickier than Bow Drill because you have to use your hands and keep up the pressure and rotations without help of the bow. But once you master the technique, to make fire all you need is a fairly straight stick and a fire board. 2 pieces as opposed to 4, 5 including a string, I will be working on that technique after I get reliable fires from my bowdrill. There was actually I guy I met last year at my advanced standard from trackerschool, a fellow student whom had worked on hand drill and mastered it I would say. With his Mullein stalk and fire board, he would make a coal in just one pass with his hands Shocked

That IMO is skill well aquired

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Hand drill is very particular about its materials... take away that fellow's mullen stick and see how readily he can replace it. Fire bow is more complex but much more forgiving. Fire plow lies somewhere in the middle.

Allan (Bow) had a survival instructor from an unmentioned, but well established school come out to train with him. He was well known for his fire bow demos and the speed at which he could get a coal. Bow challanged him (in good fun) to get a coal going without using the kit he brought. The gentleman laughed, then went to work gathering materials and within minutes had a coal... Bow laughed and said "Okay... now do it without cheating." and with that he walked over and took the man's knife... he then used it to cut the bow cord the man had pulled from his pocket... afterwhich he collected the man's fireboard, spindle, bearing block, bow, knife and severed string... smiled and asked the instructor if he was ready. The guy (with a smirk) asked Bow to put the tea on because it was going to be a long night!

If you've ever tried to use a fire bow with natural cordage you'll understand... try it using jute twine and then after breaking a dozen strings... imagine having to process it yourself... not to mention carving your set without a knife!

He and Bow are good friends so there was no ill feelings.

The morale of the story?........ options, options, options.... go as deeply as you can into every skill you have... it is a never ending quest to "stump" yourself into evolving and and adapting. If you're not failing... you are not learning.

Rick

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Couldn't have said it better myself, Rick. Cool

Keep at it, NH. You'll get it. Very Happy

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Well said Rick. I have much more to learn from my bowdrill set, I should bring it to school and work it on weekends in the woods. I am going home next weekend...I think I may bring it back. Cordage is definitely a fun one. I came close to getting a coal with natural cordage as my string, but then I got overexcited and fell into the non-natural string technique...needless to say within a few strokes my cordage snapped. It was a good lesson.

Yes I definitely think I will be bringing my bowdrill set here to learn from it and eventually will be replacing it with one that isnt cedar. Also, I have some people here interested in it, one of which who tried but was having issues similar to NH, he got fed up and quit. Lets see if I can get him into it again Smile

On the note of that guy, he also did it with a golden rod stalk and dogbane, his technique was just amazing. If he didnt get it within a single stroke, he was able to get it within a few strokes.

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Hey Brian, good to put a face to the name Cool

great avatar.
Dang that firebow,............... Evil or Very Mad

lol, i myself still must work on it. The rewards will be 10 fold Very Happy

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Lighting a campfire is a great feeling, doing it with a bow drill has such a more satisfying feel to it, knowing that all these things went right and having confidence in your ability. It not only lights a fire to keep you warm, but lights a fire inside you, motivating you in all your other survival activities, at least that is what I have discovered in my opinion.

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	Brian wrote:
	Lighting a campfire is a great feeling, doing it with a bow drill has such a more satisfying feel to it, knowing that all these things went right and having confidence in your ability. It not only lights a fire to keep you warm, but lights a fire inside you, motivating you in all your other survival activities, at least that is what I have discovered in my opinion.

i agree! and plus i would like to be able to go to the bush knowing i can light a fire with what the bush gives me incase i were to lose my firesteel and also if you know how to do it with a bow and drill then it saves the life of your firesteel so that you have it for when you really need it Smile

my bow n drill making fire bad video but you get the idea http://s230.photobucket.com/albums/ee202/sh4d0wm4573ri7/?action=view&current=Video009.flv

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Good work, sh4d0wm4573ri7! Very Happy

eric

Excellent job there. yeah we got fire. Very Happy

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