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Drummer Dave
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What is the pull weight on your recurve ?
I find alot of people get the wrong idea about recurves & longbows. They seem to think they are just for target & small game, and that couldn't be farther from the truth.
I have many mags on Traditional Archery & hunting. I cant count the many big game has been taken by recurve & longbows. Guys with 55lb recurves takeing 300lb game & 60-70lb longbows takeing BIG game,
Bear, Moose etc. And alot of these shots are 20 to 30 yards. Its a differant kind of hunting i find with traditional bows to compound bows. I havn't done much hunting myself kind of new to it really. But my friend is more than willing to take me out, so thats cool. I find compounds for 1, have to much dang crud & accesories hanging of them, ive seen compound that weigh as much as 4.3 lbs. A recurve or longbow weighs in at around 1 to 1.5lbs.
Big differance when your carrying it around. The one thing that i will say that is better on a compound is the fps, its around 310 to 315 and that is a bonus. But thats about it, lol Laughing .
I'm not saying there not great hunting tools, i just find you lose the whole point of hunting. With a compound you kind of just aim it like a gun. Longbow or Recurve takes practice and to me, alot more skill to hunt with.
I have a Longbow 62" 45lb & i target shoot alot. Got to get good for the fall hunt Very Happy . For my first hunt its just going to be rabbit & maybe grouse. I am getting a 52" recurve 60lb later this year, so im pumped on that.
Cant wait to tag my first Buck ! Cool Cool Twisted Evil Cheers Azarcher

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Daffy
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Hate to argue with you DrummerDave, but it isn't just like aiming a gun at all. You have to find your range and dial in your sights, and even then it can take a while to get it right. once it is sighted in the guesswork is gone. Is that a bad thing? knowing exactly where your arrow is when you take aim at a specific vital zone on an animal? The higher FPS, in my mind, yields a flatter flight pattern WITHIN range. I could be wrong tho. Also, higher FPS yields a further range of shooting. SURE, it is possible to use a longbow or recurve at distance. BUT the efficiency at those ranges would be less if the FPS were lower. It's math. you see all those things hanging off compounds, they are put there by the hunter. My compound has a quiver and stabalizer "hanging" off it. They add so little weight I don't even notice it. As for carrying around a 4 pound bow as opposed to a 1 pound bow, try spending a day in the bush with me and my shotgun or my .270. THEN we can talk about a heavy weapon.

Do I like recurves/long bows? Yes i certainly do.
Do I think they are practical hunting weapons? Yes I do, this has been proven more times than anyone can count over history.
Are compounds better than recruves/longbows? You can not compare any of these to each other on a scale of which is better. They are apples and oranges. Sure, both are fruit, but both are completely different.
Do I remember where my argument was going? No... not really Rolling Eyes

K, I just wanted to discuss the issue of compound vs longbow vs recurve outside of a "I like this type more" sort of thing. Each can kill any game animals in the world with proper shot placement and proper set up (draw weight/arrow weight/arrow length/range). I would not want anyone to read this and feel that they would be bashed for being a supporter of one side or the other. Not sure if any of that made sense, it's been a long day and i'm tired.
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Azarcher
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My recurve is 55lbs at 28" just like my compound. I really like my compound bows though. Especially when an animal walks behind something and stops. I would hate to be holding that 55lbs back the entire time, but with the recurve it's only like holding 20 pounds or something. Cool That is where they really shine IMO.

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Daffy
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You are right Az... The "let off" allows people who may not be able to hold the weight of drawing a bow for a long time to be able to hang on for aiming or waiting for their target to come into range purposes.
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Drummer Dave
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Good post Daffy.
Cheers. Cool

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NorthernHunter
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these are my two bows



im wanting to get a new bow but it cost like 800 bucks :S lol
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Drummer Dave
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Hey Bill what are the pull weights on these Bows ? they dont have much of a cam wheel, pretty round.
Not to say they can't kill what your aiming at Cool

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NorthernHunter
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Drummer Dave wrote:
Hey Bill what are the pull weights on these Bows ? they dont have much of a cam wheel, pretty round.
Not to say they can't kill what your aiming at Cool

the green one is 60lbs and i cant remember what the other one is i think it was just a bit more than the green one
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NorthernHunter wrote:
Drummer Dave wrote:
Hey Bill what are the pull weights on these Bows ? they dont have much of a cam wheel, pretty round.
Not to say they can't kill what your aiming at Cool

the green one is 60lbs and i cant remember what the other one is i think it was just a bit more than the green one
> Ah, loads of take down power, lol. I feel theres no need for more than 55lbs to do your average hunting. But more is needed for BIG game. Bison etc.

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NorthernHunter
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ya only there is nowhere around here to hunt those.
well actually me and my bro in law were supposed to go to some guys farm somewhere and he was going to let us shoot one with my black powder rifle lol
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nurkerool
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I shot tournament archery back in the '70's, and hunted with a compound during the same period. Still have both bows, (man I need to get a new string for that compound!!!) My thought is that it doesn't take much more than 45 pounds to kill an animal. For many years, that was the legal lower limit for many jurisdictions. I wouldn't shoot anything more than you absolutely have to have. You can hold it better, shoot better, take less time to recover if you don't shoot for a while, and have better form. The important thing is to realize that you should be driving an extremely sharp small knife almost all the way through deer-sized animals. There is no knock-down power to a bow like the hydrostatic shock of a bullet. You need that sharp knife to slice arteries, veins, heart muscle, or lungs. You don't want to hit a bone if you can help it.

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^

I have a 64" Ben Pearson Longbow with 45lb pull. More than enufe to put food on the table. Cool
I am a Traditionalist when it come to Bows, love the old school.

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nurkerool
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I started with a Ben Pearson stick bow. Then I bought a Darton. Then I bought a Hoyt. Can't remember what brand compound it is, but it was one of the oldest manufacturers. I think they are out of business now.

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I did research on my Ben Pearson Bow. And it is a classic, the closest i could pin it down for when it was made was
> 1958 to 1964 between those dates. Not much info at that time on those. I had to find a collector of Ben Pearson Bows. He said some info on some Bows made were just not given out.
I found another Archer that is 80 years old that has a store in New West Minister and has been shooting Bows since he got back from WWII. And i showed it to him. He was all Very Happy he said he had the same one many,many years ago.
And he had taken Deer with it no prob. I was happy to find a guy that had owned one.
So i chatted it up with hin for 2 hours in the store, lol. Great old guy.
I got really lucky finding it. I found it in a thrift store, in the corner way in the back stacked with skis Shocked
i eyed it up, pulled it out & i was Shocked i said to myself; Its Mine !
I paid .... $ 7.00 lol, i told this to the old guy. And he laughed. Said i got lucky, he would sell that Bow in his store
for $ 200 to $ 300 Cool and if i found a collector looking for that model, i may get $ 400
So i was happy. I paid $ 12.00 for a new bowstring and was good to go.

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nurkerool
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I don't know where my Ben Pearson got to. For a while, with everyone in the family shooting, every bow was getting used. My sister ended up with an aluminum/fiberglass limb model that was red, white, and blue. Don't even remember what that one was called.

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Found a great score at the Flea Market sunday. I bought a youth Bamboo Bow with arrows.
What little info he had on it was; a friend of his went to Japan about 40 years ago and bought it for his son.
And he was just selling it for his friend. Its 49 " long with 3 Port Orford Cedar arrows, all original. There is some wrighting left on the handle but can't read it to well. But there is one sticker still on it the reads { JAPAN } Cool
I paid only !! ............................................................ $ 15.00 Shocked i though he said $ 50.00 lol. Cool Score. Sorry for the crappy pics guys/gals.




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Beautiful!

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NorthernHunter
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thats awesome man GREAT FIND Very Happy have you used it yet?
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Drummer Dave
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NorthernHunter wrote:
thats awesome man GREAT FIND Very Happy have you used it yet?
> ya i strung it up and shot it at a wicker basket Cool it can't be more than 10 or 12 lb pull. But its cool.

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cool well you can go get a nice rabbit with it Very Happy mmmmmmm rabbit haha
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