<<Handgun Talk>> (pistols, etc.)

Good for you. Very Happy

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Good stuff, Holly Very Happy

eric

Holly,

Have you chosen a handgun yet to carry? Revolver, or semi-auto?

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For reliability, I would choose a large frame revolver. But a friend of mine bought a Beretta for me and will send it to me as soon as I get my permit. He owns a lot of guns and thinks the Beretta will suit me perfectly.

I have really long fingers and some of the smaller grips don't fit my hand very well. The large frame revolver fit perfectly. And it never jammed on me. I also shot with a semi-automatic S&W but that puppy jammed on me several times in just 50 rounds. It may be that the gun was just dirty since it was a loaner at the range.

Since I know nothing about guns, I'll definitely be taking a gun safety class! I wonder if the local community college offers "Women with Guns 101"? Very Happy

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Holly wrote:

For reliability, I would choose a large frame revolver. But a friend of mine bought a Beretta for me and will send it to me as soon as I get my permit. He owns a lot of guns and thinks the Beretta will suit me perfectly.

I have really long fingers and some of the smaller grips don't fit my hand very well. The large frame revolver fit perfectly. And it never jammed on me. I also shot with a semi-automatic S&W but that puppy jammed on me several times in just 50 rounds. It may be that the gun was just dirty since it was a loaner at the range.

Since I know nothing about guns, I'll definitely be taking a gun safety class! I wonder if the local community college offers "Women with Guns 101"? Very Happy

Yep, revolvers are certainly more reliable. Personally though I prefer semi-autos (good ones, that is). My carry is a Steyr M9-A1 9mm. Not as well known as other polymer tactical pistols (such as Glock), but far nicer to handle.

Just curious about the large frame you pick out, and how you plan to carry it, so please keep us informed. Very Happy

As far as jamming, yep I'm willing to bet that the S&W was probably dirty, and depending on the ammo... you may have been shooting some inexpensive rounds which could also add to the problem. Jamming at the ejector I'd imagine. Another thing you may be doing is "limp-wristing" when you fire. If your wrist is too relaxed/loose at the moment that you fire, then the slide loses some of it's kinetic energy and so doesn't have enough force to ram another round into battery. Happens to a lot of new shooters with semi-autos, and gets better with practice. You might ask them at your range about this. Won't happen with revolvers of course.

Cool

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A .44 revolver is what I want to carry later in life.

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Nah ! .... 445 Super Mag ! Twisted Evil

that my friends is a hand cannon Shocked

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Hehe, dirty Harry used a .44 Twisted Evil

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-Thou may'st break, but shalt not bend me.

-Idleness brings want
To work today is to eat tomorrow
It is best to prepare for the days of necessity

-Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder's eye on the Last Day.

I'd like to have a S&W M&P Compact. Cool

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Azarcher wrote:

	Colt wrote:
	I dont think id like to shoot a G18, I rather just go with a Uzi, or the Grease Gun. Can anyone tell me why the US went from a .45 to a 9mm?

There are many reasons. The balistics from a .45 and a 9mm at close distance is marginal at best, this also applies to the .40s&w. There is also the fact that 9mm is lighter than .45 so more ammo could be carried (think 30-06 to 5.56) There is also a major issue of training people who have never shot a gun in their life to shoot. The 9mm has less recoil and report than the .45 does, so training would be easier. There is also the whole thing with the 1911. Like the M16 series they are only as reliable as the person who cleans them. If you strip it every night, clean it, lube it, and care for it, it will never let you down. But can we expect our boys and girls to make time to strip their guns down nightly? They already have too much to do. So they went with more reliable guns, like the Glock series, and the H&K series. At the time they were only being made in 9mm and starting production on the .40s&w. There were no .45acp pistols that were any better than the 1911/A1 pistols. But now that we have the H&K USP .45 series, the Glocks, and XDs coming out in .45 and tons of other makers there is a slow trend of .45 coming back. Will it make a full comeback? Who knows, but there sure are a lot more .308 rifles seeing action..... Idea

The main reason for the switch was NATO compliance. If NATO standardizes a particular round (5.56, 9mm, etc) member nations are expected to issue weapons in that caliber so there would be fewer difficulties in supply. At the time (1985 or so) the U.S. was (probably?) the only country to issue a .45 ACP pistol. I remember the huge controversy at the time about the switch from the 'gool ol' .45' to the 9mm, and gun magazines ran dozens of different articles about ".45 vs 9mm".

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Hazeywolf,

Shocked

I'm not sure what prompted your comments against Holly. I checked back thru Holly's posts (she's only made a handful, all pleasant in my opinion), and took a look at the link you provided (something about someone's claims as a Navy Seal??)... not sure how your link presumably connects up with Holly, or what the problem is. Confused

Might I suggest you two work this out privately if you can?

Anyhoo, I'm keeping an eye on this thread.

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Keeping an eye on this myself as well. No need for that hazeywolf.
PM her, don't post hacking comments here. Or it gets deleted.

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All kinds of new pistols out right now:

http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Charger/

http://www.ruger-firearms.com/SR9/

http://personalsecurityzone.com/cgi-win/order/prodlist.exe/PSZ/?Template=ProdDetail.htm&ProductID=31767

The Ruger Charger web page isn't working right at this moment, but it's essentially a 10/22 rifle with a shorter barrel and pistol grip. Should be lots of fun to bust pop cans or take rabbit or squirrel sized game.

There's even a video:

http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Charger/Video.html

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Wow, i really like the Ruger Charger Smile

Great Back-pack firearm. Keep them rabbit & squirrel's in check. Twisted Evil

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	Drummer Dave wrote:
	Wow, i really like the Ruger Charger Great Back-pack firearm. Keep them rabbit & squirrel's in check.

It really does look like small-game getter, doesn't it? It would be a lot of fun to see just how far out you could bust a pop can with it, too!

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Hmmm... you guys have me thinking of switching out my Ruger Mk.III Hunter for a Charger. Nice looking .22!
Very Happy

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	Dobry wrote:
	Hmmm... you guys have me thinking of switching out my Ruger Mk.III Hunter for a Charger. Nice looking .22!

That video really makes it look fun!

I'm sort of waffling between wanting that Charger, a new Glock 21SF, an InterOrdnance STG-2000, and a surplus Mauser.....decisions, decisions.... Laughing

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I just got my Glock21 SF (glock rail) and I absolutly love it! I liked the 21, but the huge grip made it a little funky to hold it. Even though they only removed a minor amount of backstrap it has made a huge difference to me. I also had them install the trijicon night sights when I bought it, I couldn't help it. Embarassed

Getting the gun, and three mags for $460 and the night sights for $60 installed right there I couldn't pass it up. Cool

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Yeah, trijicons are worth the money. Cool

Happy shooting. Very Happy

All bullseyes I bet. Razz

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Hey Azarcher nice to see ya back & posting again Cool

Cheers.

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Carry Less by Knowing More
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