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Dutchman
Boreal Forest Survivor

Joined: 31 May 2007 Posts: 59 Location: Northern Michigan |
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I managed to make charclothe, but I was wondering, if you don't have any extra cloth in the wild what else can you char to replace it(bark, grass, leaves)?
What containers do you guys and gals use to carry flint, stone, and charclothe? Dutchman.
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| Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:19 pm |
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Drummer Dave
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Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 4433 Location: B.C West Coast, Canada |
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Good job Dutchman.
As far as what else to use to make char like product, i dont know what would work.
Your Jeans, socks, ? ive never made the char cloth yet.
What i use to carry my tinder stuff is a Tinder Pouch Made it of leather. Its got my Jute, fatwood, firesteel.
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| Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:29 pm |
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Dutchman
Boreal Forest Survivor

Joined: 31 May 2007 Posts: 59 Location: Northern Michigan |
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What is Jute? and what is fatwood? Dutchman.
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| Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:47 pm |
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turd
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Joined: 06 Mar 2007 Posts: 1922 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada |
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Jute is like hemp and fatwood is old pine wood/stumps that is full of pine resin
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I was thinking of doing that too
eric
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| Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:04 am |
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ColdSoul
Georgian Swamp Survivor
Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Posts: 224
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I am pretty sure you could use a twig. It will not be as good, but it would be always available, and would be of use if kept dry. You would have it catch a spark and blow on it some until it caught a bit of flame and light the other tinder/small twigs.
If not maybe you could use a animal skin that has been cleaned, scrapped and dried? They use to use it as clothing so it might work.
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| Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:41 am |
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Drummer Dave
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Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 4433 Location: B.C West Coast, Canada |
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 |  | What is Jute? and what is fatwood? Dutchman. |
Jute is a type of twine " string " its been used as tinder starter for many years.
Just break it up to a fluffy pile, & just a spark from firesteel, Poof ! Fire
And fatwood is resinated Pine, this stuff is awsome to have Check your local hardware store & look in the BBQ section in the fire starter area. I have 10lbs of the stuff now. Cheers Dutchman
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| Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:45 am |
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Normark
Georgian Swamp Survivor

Joined: 26 Apr 2007 Posts: 236
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Hey Guys...
I have several containers I use to make char cloth...
I have a bulk can (old tabacco can) that I use to make bulk batches of char cloth,,several hundred pieces..
Then I have smaller tins that will do several dozen...
Small tins such as Altoids or even screw top pellet tins work nice...
I made a fire kit for Survival Kid a few months back and used a small pellet tin for a char cloth tin... Hopefully he is using it !!
ttyle
Eric
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TommasisX
Georgian Swamp Survivor

Joined: 31 Dec 2006 Posts: 212 Location: Hurricane Alley, Florida |
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I made a fire kit for Survival Kid a few months back and used a small pellet tin for a char cloth tin... Hopefully he is using it !!
ttyle
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Hmmm........ that's pretty interesting Normark. You might want to check this out:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=110153981234&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=001
This person's gotten as much as $22.01 U.S. for his kits.
I've been thinking about getting one since it's such a neat little kit but thought I'd hold off just in case someone here offered something similar in our new selling/trading section.
Just a thought for some of our more handy members. 
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| Sat Aug 04, 2007 4:58 am |
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Survivor Kid 909
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Joined: 23 Sep 2006 Posts: 1872 Location: Iowa |
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 |  | Hey Guys...
I have several containers I use to make char cloth...
I have a bulk can (old tabacco can) that I use to make bulk batches of char cloth,,several hundred pieces..
Then I have smaller tins that will do several dozen...
Small tins such as Altoids or even screw top pellet tins work nice...
I made a fire kit for Survival Kid a few months back and used a small pellet tin for a char cloth tin... Hopefully he is using it !!
ttyle
Eric
O/ST | Yup!!!! I use it quite often!!!
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Normark
Georgian Swamp Survivor

Joined: 26 Apr 2007 Posts: 236
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Hey Tomm..
Thanks for the link..
Not a bad little kit at all..
If you can get one for $20 that wouldn't be really that bad...
SK..
Awesome....
I'm glad you are learning and using some of that kit....
It's alot of fun doing this stuff ain't it ???
Being in the outdoors and living an outdoors lifestyle will keep you off the streets!
Like Uncle Ted nugent always says..
While everyone was out getting drunk and high on drugs he was out in the woods getting his hands bloody!
Good to here SK..
ttyle
Eric
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survivordan
Survival Enthusiast

Joined: 06 Dec 2007 Posts: 21
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One can use punk, which id the rotted, semi-decomposed wood from trees, or pith, with is the white substance at the center of some plant stalks. I have used both sucessfully.
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Askdamice
Utah Canyonland Survivor

Joined: 06 Apr 2007 Posts: 370 Location: Ontario, Canada |
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you can char just about anything in the bush... some work better than others... leaves and grasses get very brittle... a few fungi are good for char... or can be used, uncharred, in some instances.
Rick
I sometimes put a piece of true tinder fungus in my Firepouch kits.
http://fourseasonssurv.s3.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=1350
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| Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:20 pm |
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Survivor Kid 909
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Joined: 23 Sep 2006 Posts: 1872 Location: Iowa |
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 |  | Hey Guys...
I have several containers I use to make char cloth...
I have a bulk can (old tabacco can) that I use to make bulk batches of char cloth,,several hundred pieces..
Then I have smaller tins that will do several dozen...
Small tins such as Altoids or even screw top pellet tins work nice...
I made a fire kit for Survival Kid a few months back and used a small pellet tin for a char cloth tin... Hopefully he is using it !!
ttyle
Eric
O/ST | Yup, thanks again Eric, I was jsut going through my gear again tonight. The items you gave me have been a GREAT help!!!
_________________ -Thou may'st break, but shalt not bend me.
-Idleness brings want
To work today is to eat tomorrow
It is best to prepare for the days of necessity
-Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder's eye on the Last Day. |
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