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bobosmokey
Sonoran Desert Survivor

Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 128
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| Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:55 am |
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flashlightfreak9
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Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 3492 Location: Sweet Home Alabama!!! |
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I have seen a few commercials about a ManvsWild marathon Monday night on Discovery. It's not new episodes, just ones that are tweaked a little.
I'm curious to see what they've done. 
_________________ The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. - Psalms 53:1
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| Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:21 pm |
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TommasisX
Georgian Swamp Survivor

Joined: 31 Dec 2006 Posts: 212 Location: Hurricane Alley, Florida |
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Ya, I see it starting at 7. Should be interesting to see the changes. I don't know how they could make the necessary changes and it still be the same show. I guess we'll see tonight.
_________________ How is it one careless match can start a forest fire, but it takes a whole box to start a campfire?
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| Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:41 pm |
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Bob Loblaw
Utah Canyonland Survivor

Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 356
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"Time to make a shelter... I'm not staying the night, but this area would make a good place for a shelter."
And what about his locations? That trail in the high grass that he said was a rabbit was probably a freaking trail for sightseers and hikers. I'm still not convinced!
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| Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:42 pm |
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Bob Loblaw
Utah Canyonland Survivor

Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 356
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OOHHHHHH SNAP!!!!
"19th century rabbits were introduced to Scotland, and now there are 9.5million in the country and are an agricultural pest.. I didn't catch one overnight but I've got one here to show you what you can do with one if you catch one."
BAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHA.... I KNEW IT!! FISH, SNAKE, RABBITS, EVERYTHING HE EVER CAUGHT!!! FAKE!!!!
And this scene was truly edited... Before he was all like.. "OH I'VE GOT ONE!" And he'd chase it for a second, trap it, and then murder it.
FK BEAR!!!!
WHERES PETA WHEN YOU NEED THEM!?!??!
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| Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:50 pm |
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flashlightfreak9
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Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 3492 Location: Sweet Home Alabama!!! |
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No surprise there.
DISCLAIMER
Bear Grylls and the crew receive support when
they are in potentially life threatening situations,
as required by health and safety regulations.
On some occasions, situations are presented to
Bear so he can demonstrate survival techniques.
Professional advice should always be sought
before entering any dangerous environment.
Some random quotes and thoughts:
"trout has been placed downstream"
agave plant wasn't in original episode
"with a little help from the crew, I've got 15 feet of rope"
you can tell when commentary is added
"Have you ever eaten beetle larvae?"
^was talking to cameraman, wasn't in original episode
he doesn't talk about being rescued at the end anymore like he did in original episodes
"I'll be receiving some help from local experts along the way, if needed."
while making shelter-"this process takes time, so I'll get some help from the crew"
he used a piece of burlap when starting fire
while crossing river-"local rangers helped make this as safe as we can"
much more commentary, less talking on camera
bear claw mark was totally fake
doesn't show him spending the night or breaking camp anymore
more-you should, you need to, you'll have to; instead of-I'm going to have to, etc..
"a camera crew will follow me, and if needed, local experts will be on hand to help"
"with the team's help I'm trying to make a ladder"
What I really want to see is Deserted Island, Sierra Nevadas, and Rocky Mountain. 
_________________ The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. - Psalms 53:1
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| Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:50 am |
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Bob Loblaw
Utah Canyonland Survivor

Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 356
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Those are probably too hard to edit... and they will certainly leave first time viewers NOT wanting more.
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| Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:14 pm |
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flashlightfreak9
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Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 3492 Location: Sweet Home Alabama!!! |
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 |  | Those are probably too hard to edit... and they will certainly leave first time viewers NOT wanting more. |
No kidding. 
_________________ The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. - Psalms 53:1
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| Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:39 am |
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TommasisX
Georgian Swamp Survivor

Joined: 31 Dec 2006 Posts: 212 Location: Hurricane Alley, Florida |
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Shows what a BIG difference editing makes. 
_________________ How is it one careless match can start a forest fire, but it takes a whole box to start a campfire?
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| Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:46 pm |
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survivorman_survive
Sonoran Desert Survivor
Joined: 27 Sep 2006 Posts: 123
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i can honestly say hes a pig and i hope that just because he did this some people dont doubt Les's integrity.
I wish they would've taken his shows off the air because someone is gonna try one of the many stupid things he did on his show and get injured or killed.
Im glad there are honest people in the world like Les who can show us true survival and true reality television.
And that concludes my rant... 
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| Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:17 pm |
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linsleyk
Cook Islands Survivor

Joined: 03 Sep 2007 Posts: 1571 Location: Washington |
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i agree with you 100 % survivorman_survive les's show is allot better then his but that's just me 
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| Fri Sep 28, 2007 3:34 pm |
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flashlightfreak9
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Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 3492 Location: Sweet Home Alabama!!! |
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Survivorman is WAY better. 
_________________ The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. - Psalms 53:1
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| Fri Sep 28, 2007 3:44 pm |
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flashlightfreak9
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Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 3492 Location: Sweet Home Alabama!!! |
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I nearly fell out of my chair Friday night when I saw commercials for new episodes of ManvsWild.
Apparently he's got his fan base back.... 
_________________ The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. - Psalms 53:1
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| Sun Oct 28, 2007 2:07 pm |
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Drummer Dave
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Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 4539 Location: B.C West Coast, Canada |
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i seen it on channel 42 here, Discovery; his new episodes are on ......... i watched it for 2 minutes & kept on going.....
I just refuse to watch his show, i will not support a fraud 
_________________ A Knifeless Man is a Lifeless Man
Canadian To The Core
Carry Less by Knowing More
Knowledge Weighs Nothing
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| Sun Oct 28, 2007 2:35 pm |
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BushRat
Saugeen Survivor

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 1087 Location: Toronto |
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I've just recently seen 2 episodes (Everglades and Amazon) for the first time. A number of things strike me about Bear. He obviously has never heard the phrase "You sweat, you die." Most people would drop from exhaustion if they threw themselves at situations all day the way he appears to. He certainly seems to think that the way to make the show appealing is to make it entertaining to lowest common denominator viewers, and to sensationalize something that does not need to be sensationalized. Although there are some interesting survival techniques in each episode, there are also unnecessarily risky stunts (such as his river crossing techniques). He seems to enjoy grossing us out by eating disgusting things. (Why not cook those grubs!) He keeps saying he will get help from local residents when he can, but we never see him doing so. Is he afraid they will show him up?
I might keep watching for the scenery, like I do Mantracker, but if I'm going to be out, I sure won't bother setting my vcr.
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| Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:45 pm |
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linsleyk
Cook Islands Survivor

Joined: 03 Sep 2007 Posts: 1571 Location: Washington |
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If I watch it it's for the scenery and animal shots thats about it
_________________ "what was once bait is now dinner"-Bob and Les deep woods
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| Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:06 pm |
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Survivorman
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Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 912 Location: British Columbia, Canada |
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I FINALLY found Man vs Wild on Discovery channel and I enjoy watching his show, I kind of just forget that his show is a fraud and the hour of Man vs Wild is as enjoyable as Survivorman is in my opinion....
_________________ It's not climbing the mountain to get to the top; it's climbing the mountain to enjoy the climb. |
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| Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:35 pm |
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offroad1994
Sonoran Desert Survivor
Joined: 03 Aug 2007 Posts: 105
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BG is on the cover of OUTSIDE magazine. The article is interesting in that he just admits it is all entertainment and contrievance (it is television). There will be a 2nd season of Man vs Wild starting Nov 16th in United States on Discovery.
_________________ #Les Stroud# FIVE "Ws" of survival. 1- Wood for fire. 2- Widowmakers - to fall on you, or bite, etc. 3- Wigglies making sure they do not get into your bedding. 4- Weather - make sure you have shelter 5 - Water as much as a gallon a day. |
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TrooperMax
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Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Posts: 3536 Location: Orleans, Ontario, Canada |
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I still hate the man because he's no differnt to me, sorry guys but this guys an attention whore and cares about how he looks doing this than teaching you anything. Its my opinion this guy cant be comapred to Les, Ron Hood, or Ray Mears.
Ya he got his fan base back, unfortunally. His fan base consists of young kids who dont know survival (sorry to you people here, I know you guys are experiance here )
When I had my stroud videos on youtube, I got tons of messages from people saying "Bear grylls is way better than everyone else" and it was just really lame.
_________________ "There dosen't look like there's much shelter over in those mountains, but that's the only choice I got right now, this is gonna be a long week" - Les Stroud Arctic |
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| Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:53 am |
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Bob Loblaw
Utah Canyonland Survivor

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 |  | BG is on the cover of OUTSIDE magazine. The article is interesting in that he just admits it is all entertainment and contrievance (it is television). There will be a 2nd season of Man vs Wild starting Nov 16th in United States on Discovery. |
No offense to those who read or subscribe to OUTSIDE, but thats one of the main reasons I will never buy or pick up an issue of that mag. They have basically become a Maxim for outdoors.. overlooking what really counts, for reader ratings. They don't really have a target audience.. just a target age. Do I sound like a hater yet? haha.
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| Mon Oct 29, 2007 4:04 pm |
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