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Normark
Georgian Swamp Survivor

Joined: 26 Apr 2007 Posts: 236
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A Fire-Bow Demo with AskDaMice |
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Hey Guys…
This past weekend I had the distinct pleasure of having Rick Marchand
(AskDaMice) join us at our campfire while we were camping literally
minutes from his front door.
He brought with him some of his wares including a small flint and steel kit,
a cool little handmade leather fire-kit pouch and a handmade knife with a
whitetail deer crown handle. Holding the knife you feel the life within it, which
I believe is energy from the maker..
We had some nice conversation, around the campfire. My dad very much
enjoyed talking with him and some of his travels.
Rick also brought with him his fire-bow which he so Graciously agreed to
demonstrate. Also in attendance was my oldest son Eric, my nephew and
brother in law…He also showed us a little cordage making with ordinary
grasses and saplings.
Here are some pictures of Rick’s fire-bow in action.
Here Rick is cutting down the shoulder on his spindle so it doesn’t hang up in
the fireboard socket
Beginning to make the fire-board socket
Fire-board socket is being burned and dust is collecting around
the spindle (dust will be saved and used as a coal extender)
Checking to see that the spindle and board are mating up properly
Socket is now burned the spindle and board are mated properly.
Cutting and the checking the notch
Beginning to work on a coal
Spindle is building up major heat and a coal is forming.
Rick is pumping the bow at full speed
Checking for a coal
Coal has formed, however isn’t visible with the camera flash, you
can see a clear indication from the light wisps of smoke coming
from the dust.
Rick is preparing to tap the coal onto his coal extender
and tinder bed
Coal is nestled in the small tinder bed and is getting larger
Coal and tinder bed are transferred to a larger bundle.
The coal at this point is larger than a cigarette heater.
Watching his coal grow
Rick blows the coal with one breath into life giving fire
Success!
Rick’s fire-bow kit including fire-board, bow, spindle and
handmade stacked leather socket.
This had been only the second time that I personally watched
a fire made with a fire-bow. Although I have seen it done many
times on tape from various sources.
This was Very exciting for me. Fire no matter how it is made always
amazes me.
Rick is Very meticulous about how he prepares his fire-bow, and painstakingly
prepares each piece of his kit. Rick believes that each time he makes fire it is
a spiritual process and is almost ritualistic in preparing everything so that
it is just right. I agree and feel the exact same way about it.
I’d like to Thank Rick for coming out even though he had a busy day
and was tired.
I’m very grateful to be able to call him a friend and enjoy his company
and experience very much.
Thanks Rick!
Please feel free to ask any questions you may have, and I encourage
everyone to learn this Very valuable skill.
ttyle
Eric
O/ST
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| Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:21 pm |
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turd
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Joined: 06 Mar 2007 Posts: 1932 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada |
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Thats awesome! Thanks for sharing
eric
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| Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:34 pm |
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Drummer Dave
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Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 4545 Location: B.C West Coast, Canada |
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Good stuff Smiles alot is that Jute ? you are useing ?. Good post.
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| Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:26 pm |
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jax
Boreal Forest Survivor

Joined: 08 Jan 2007 Posts: 71 Location: usa |
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damn look at his boots! this guy is hardcore. to make fire that way is such a cool skill.
smart of you to take pics, thanks for sharing!
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| Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:57 am |
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Dobry
Kalahari Desert Survivor

Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 510 Location: Kansas/Missouri/Arkansas |
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Great post! Thanks guys! 
_________________ "Asinus sæculæ maximus." |
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| Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:54 am |
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Askdamice
Utah Canyonland Survivor

Joined: 06 Apr 2007 Posts: 369 Location: Ontario, Canada |
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That's great Eric... the night was alot of fun. Your father is a pleasure to talk to... What a Worldly man, indeed. Forum members... Eric and his relatives are a "one in a million" family... I felt at ease from the moment I neared the camp and heard the gentle hum of his dad's harmonica(he was playing german folk songs, I think.) This was the first time I met his family and by the end of the night his kids were giving me goodnight hugs! I was truely honoured.
I hope this thread doesn't portray me to be some kind of bush guru... cause I'm anything but that. I was just there to see his family and enjoy myself... we sat and talked for sometime before the opportunity presented itself to attempt fire by friction. As Eric said... I enjoy practicing these skills and I have my so called "rituals" I go through... It's definately not the only way to get the job done, but I find it the most enjoyable. With all the genuine interest everybody showed toward this craft... I new the bush would allow us a coal, in the least. I knew as soon as I saw the sheer size of the coal (roughly the size of jellybean) that the Earth Mother was showing off for us that night.... once nested inside the tinder I waited a few moments and literally one whisper of breath ignited the bundle... What a joy.
We did a little cordage and talked for a bit but it was getting late so I mounted my White Steed (Norco pedal bike) and rode of into the darkness (catching a few branches in the face as I made my way out.)
Thanks for posting this, guys.
Next time we'll try the "no knife" firedrill method.
Rick
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| Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:51 am |
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TrooperMax
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Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Posts: 3538 Location: Orleans, Ontario, Canada |
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woohoo go rick 
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| Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:49 am |
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Dobry
Kalahari Desert Survivor

Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 510 Location: Kansas/Missouri/Arkansas |
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Rick's da man! 
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| Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:57 pm |
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OGTL
Utah Canyonland Survivor

Joined: 17 Jul 2007 Posts: 383 Location: Northern Ontario, Boreal Forest |
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Nice, you seem to know quite a bit judging by your posts, and the fire drill isn't easy. Good going.
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| Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:32 pm |
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Askdamice
Utah Canyonland Survivor

Joined: 06 Apr 2007 Posts: 369 Location: Ontario, Canada |
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Thanks for the compliments, guys... 
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| Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:39 pm |
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flashlightfreak9
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Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 3497 Location: Sweet Home Alabama!!! |
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Good stuff. 
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| Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:42 pm |
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NorthernHunter
Northern Alberta Survivor

Joined: 28 Apr 2007 Posts: 746 Location: Alberta, Canada |
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Next time we'll try the "no knife" firedrill method.
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that must be pretty hard how would you do that? a rock?
good post i have been trying the firebow for a while but yet to get a flame just lots of smoke lol
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linsleyk
Cook Islands Survivor

Joined: 03 Sep 2007 Posts: 1582 Location: Washington |
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how long did it take you to get a flame.I love to watch people build a fire 
_________________ "what was once bait is now dinner"-Bob and Les deep woods
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| Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:04 pm |
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TrooperMax
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Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Posts: 3538 Location: Orleans, Ontario, Canada |
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Hey Rick can I ask what you use for the string? THat seems to be my biggest set back
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| Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:19 pm |
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Survivor Kid 909
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Joined: 23 Sep 2006 Posts: 1866 Location: Iowa |
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Looks like paracord.
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NorthernHunter
Northern Alberta Survivor

Joined: 28 Apr 2007 Posts: 746 Location: Alberta, Canada |
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on mine i use a piece of leather everything else i use stretches to much
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| Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:38 pm |
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Brian
Kalahari Desert Survivor

Joined: 02 Jun 2007 Posts: 583 Location: Spencerport, New York |
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The string looks like Paracord, stretching is the reason why we put our bows under so much tension partially, then if it stretches, you can continue, the bow just soaks up the stretch... to a degree, it can be too tight too, which doesnt work too pretty. Yes NorthernHunter, he would use a rock most likely. In Trackerschool, at your advanced standard, they have you make a bowdrill again...only catch is you can't use your knifes, only native natural materials and you have one hour to make a fire. I won't mention what happens if you fail to make fire 
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| Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:37 am |
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NorthernHunter
Northern Alberta Survivor

Joined: 28 Apr 2007 Posts: 746 Location: Alberta, Canada |
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 |  | The string looks like Paracord, stretching is the reason why we put our bows under so much tension partially, then if it stretches, you can continue, the bow just soaks up the stretch... to a degree, it can be too tight too, which doesnt work too pretty. Yes NorthernHunter, he would use a rock most likely. In Trackerschool, at your advanced standard, they have you make a bowdrill again...only catch is you can't use your knifes, only native natural materials and you have one hour to make a fire. I won't mention what happens if you fail to make fire  |
oh no haha i guess you better not fail then eh lol
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| Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:33 am |
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Brian
Kalahari Desert Survivor

Joined: 02 Jun 2007 Posts: 583 Location: Spencerport, New York |
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Our class got fire 5 seconds after time, so they decided it was close enough for first time and didnt punish us...phew
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| Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:43 pm |
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NorthernHunter
Northern Alberta Survivor

Joined: 28 Apr 2007 Posts: 746 Location: Alberta, Canada |
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i was out working with my fire bow again today and i just keep getting smoke and then i get to tired to keep going is there a trick to this or something?
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