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Drummer Dave
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Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 3760 Location: B.C West Coast, Canada |
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Well i finally went out to the bush & found the right bent stick for my firebow. Its cedar and about 5/8 thick.
My firedrill is maple, dead & dry. Its 3/4 inch thick & 10 inches long. And my fire board is bone dry cedar as well.
I have another fire drill as well, it's 1/2" thick & 8" long. I was on line & found there are many ways to make your firebow & accesories, so im trying them all. But my first try with my stuff worked good in no more than about
20 seconds i had a good amount of smoke. I stopped cause i was in the house. And a good tip i read from another source was to put pine needles on your holding block, it acts like a lub for the spindle. And i found that mine did heat up & start to stick & get harder to spin, so im going to try the pine needle Lub test. Oh, my holding block in mahogany.
So far with my testing, its not that hard to do i found. Get the right materials & you can make fire easy .

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| Fri May 25, 2007 9:45 pm |
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Drummer Dave
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Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 3760 Location: B.C West Coast, Canada |
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Tell me if the pic worked guys. imageshack has been messing up latley. Thanks.
_________________ A Knifeless Man is a Lifeless Man
Canadian To The Core
We are Known By The Tracks we Leave Behind
Carry Less by Knowing More
Knowledge Weighs Nothing
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| Fri May 25, 2007 9:47 pm |
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turd
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I see your pic Drummer Dave
Looks cool!
I haven't got a fire going yet but what helped me to get closer is to narrow the top of the spindle and make the bottom wide and blunt.
It kind of looks like you did that already
So did you set the smoke alarm off yet
eric
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| Fri May 25, 2007 9:54 pm |
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Azarcher
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Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 507 Location: Chandler, Arizona |
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Very cool! I don't know enough about wood to make my own yet. So you have my respect. 
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| Fri May 25, 2007 11:32 pm |
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Drummer Dave
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Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 3760 Location: B.C West Coast, Canada |
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 |  | Very cool! I don't know enough about wood to make my own yet. So you have my respect.  |
Hey thanks guys. Azarcher just to keep it simple, for the bow use fresh cut if possible, so its more springy, and leave the bark on so it doesn't dry out as fast. Use Cedar or Maple.
And for holding block use a hard wood, Any ! hard wood. And the fire board use soft wood. cottonwood works too.
And the spindle, you must use hardwood there are many mentioned to use, one was maple & i had lots of that around here so that was my pick, strait, dead, & dry. I now have more spindles made of differant lenghs & diameters. I read one guy uses
a 15 inch spindle, and another guy uses nothing less than 5 inches, so it really varys to the person from what im reading. And of course, practice,practice,practice. Ive yet to make fire, but getting my hot ember doesn't look like it will be to hard to do. I'll post more of the fire starting part. Wish i had a Video Cam. Cheers.
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Canadian To The Core
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Carry Less by Knowing More
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| Sat May 26, 2007 4:57 am |
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TrooperMax
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Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Posts: 3461 Location: Orleans, Ontario, Canada |
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Great work Dave, being successful in the firebow really boosts your confidence, expecially when you are in the woods. I also got my first ash this year useing a cedar fireboow I made. I am now testing differnt rope/strings because most of the ones I used before arnt very good.
Nice job Dave 
_________________ "There dosen't look like there's much shelter over in those mountains, but that's the only choice I got right now, this is gonna be a long week" - Les Stroud Arctic |
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| Sat May 26, 2007 12:17 pm |
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turd
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The spindle slipped a lot for me too, so I scratched it up real good with the saw on my wave and then it didn't slip any more
eric
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| Sat May 26, 2007 12:29 pm |
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TrooperMax
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Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Posts: 3461 Location: Orleans, Ontario, Canada |
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Yeah. I used cedar, and its really hard to get a straight piece. So it was hard to find a good spindle. The first one I worked with was really annoying, but I did end up finding a better one
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| Sat May 26, 2007 12:38 pm |
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Drummer Dave
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Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 3760 Location: B.C West Coast, Canada |
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 |  | The spindle slipped a lot for me too, so I scratched it up real good with the saw on my wave and then it didn't slip any more
eric | Yes, mark up the spidle well, that was a right away prob i had, smooth spindle BAD .
Good point turd.
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Canadian To The Core
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Carry Less by Knowing More
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| Sat May 26, 2007 1:09 pm |
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Drummer Dave
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 |  | Yeah. I used cedar, and its really hard to get a straight piece. So it was hard to find a good spindle. The first one I worked with was really annoying, but I did end up finding a better one |
Ya i was hunting for an hour looking for a dead fall with a strait spindle i could use. And i found a nice piece of maple.
I did have a piece of cedar at first and found it to soft on the cedar fireboard, could not get enufe friction.
The hard maple, like i said got the cedar fireboard smoking in 20 seconds. 
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Canadian To The Core
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Carry Less by Knowing More
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| Sat May 26, 2007 1:12 pm |
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flashlightfreak9
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I haven't had much luck with the firebow. So many things have to be right in order for it to work.
But if you know what you are doing, then it's not that hard.
The hand drill is much simpler, although it takes the most patience and skill.
The fire plow is by far the simplest, but it takes lots of endurance and strength.

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| Mon May 28, 2007 7:06 pm |
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Drummer Dave
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 |  | I haven't had much luck with the firebow. So many things have to be right in order for it to work.
But if you know what you are doing, then it's not that hard.
The hand drill is much simpler, although it takes the most patience and skill.
The fire plow is by far the simplest, but it takes lots of endurance and strength.
 | Ya thats for sure Flash, thats a tuff one. I tryed it acouple of time and the work involved i think is to much.
But hey, it does work, & it is good to learn it. I will go at it again later on. I mworking with the firebow now, i got good results with it, so, ...... i will continue till i get FIRE !!!! 
_________________ A Knifeless Man is a Lifeless Man
Canadian To The Core
We are Known By The Tracks we Leave Behind
Carry Less by Knowing More
Knowledge Weighs Nothing
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| Mon May 28, 2007 8:50 pm |
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flashlightfreak9
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You do that. 
_________________ Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend. - Prov. 27:17
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| Tue May 29, 2007 6:43 am |
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Askdamice
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Joined: 06 Apr 2007 Posts: 361 Location: Ontario, Canada |
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Dave can you post some pics of what the fireboard and spindle look like when you're done. close ups would be great. Don't disturb the dust or anything... the ends of the spindle and the hearth of the fireboard tell alot. Maybe I can help... if you'd like?
Rick
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Drummer Dave
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Ya sure Rick, will do. I should be trying it again here soon. Thanks & Cheers.
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Canadian To The Core
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Carry Less by Knowing More
Knowledge Weighs Nothing
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| Wed May 30, 2007 9:27 am |
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flashlightfreak9
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Can't wait! 
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| Wed May 30, 2007 11:42 am |
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TrooperMax
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I shall post mine soon too.
Its not as nice as daves but it gets the job done.
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| Wed May 30, 2007 12:02 pm |
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Drummer Dave
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Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 3760 Location: B.C West Coast, Canada |
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Here are the close up pics of fireboard & spindle. I get smoke fast, but the dust seems to cool fast ? Not pushing hard enufe ? to hard ? etc, lol.

_________________ A Knifeless Man is a Lifeless Man
Canadian To The Core
We are Known By The Tracks we Leave Behind
Carry Less by Knowing More
Knowledge Weighs Nothing
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| Wed May 30, 2007 3:10 pm |
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turd
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I think Askdamice to me go faster and with less pressure because my dust was to light
eric
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| Wed May 30, 2007 3:19 pm |
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Askdamice
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Ah... I see my friend... you are drilling holes not making fire... i should have noticed this from your first pic ... I think this one will be an easy fix.
Your spindle tip is much to sharp... which is why you're drilling and not getting hot enough.
Once you get your spindle seated you don't even need a sharp point on it. I'm excited for you to try it again
Here is a diagram.
some pics from my friend Woodsman

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