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TrooperMax
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Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Posts: 3588 Location: Orleans, Ontario, Canada |
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We often look at the pros of ever item we talk about, but rarely the cons. I think it is a good idea to start this topic to talk about the bad points/problems of the gear we use. This will make others expect the common problems in an item.
I'll start.
Headlamps that arnt LED but just the old bulb, have good visability but kill the bateries very fast. Also the light is yellow rather than white (which bothers me).
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| Tue May 15, 2007 9:15 am |
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flashlightfreak9
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Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 4406 Location: Sweet Home Alabama!!! |
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Surefire LED flashlights with a TIR lens have a bright central beam but no peripheral(?) light. 
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| Tue May 15, 2007 11:49 am |
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Daffy
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Joined: 24 Sep 2006 Posts: 1461 Location: East Coast |
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knives, they get dull. solution, take a sharpener with you. result, twice as much gear. Also you may have to use honing oil which could leak in your pack (i know i know worst case senerio) and soak all your gear in oil. Another thing is anything with batteries (gps/flashlight/other) with them dying right when you need them.
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| Tue May 15, 2007 6:40 pm |
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Dobry
Kalahari Desert Survivor

Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 509 Location: Kansas/Missouri/Arkansas |
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Flashlightfreak...
I just got a Surefire E2D as my EDC/outdoors flashlight. I mistakenly thought it was an LED... have been debating whether to exchange it for an LED, but I do have to say that the thing is BRIGHT! I can see why Surefire says it can temporarily blind an adversary. And it's definitely built to last.
LED or incandescent?! Ugh!
I know, I know... this issue was discussed in another recent thread. Jury's still out for me, though.
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| Wed May 16, 2007 6:06 am |
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flashlightfreak9
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Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 4406 Location: Sweet Home Alabama!!! |
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LOL, you should have gotton a catalog before you bought. I didn't the first time, either. 
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| Wed May 16, 2007 9:37 am |
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flashlightfreak9
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Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 4406 Location: Sweet Home Alabama!!! |
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The clip on the battery compartment of my Princeton Tec Solo Headlamp broke the other day. It won't stay closed now.
I sent Princeton Tec a message about it and it is covered under warranty, but I'm wondering if it's worth it sending to New Jersey. I was looking at getting a new headlamp anyway.
What do you guys think? 
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| Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:38 pm |
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Daffy
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Joined: 24 Sep 2006 Posts: 1461 Location: East Coast |
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Weight.. more gear = better prepaired for more situations but too much leads to a backbreaking hike every time you go.... this could make you tired quicker and it could make you more likely to leave your gear at home when "just going fora quick hike"...
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| Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:11 am |
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Survivor Kid 909
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Joined: 23 Sep 2006 Posts: 1953 Location: Iowa |
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Yup, your back needs to be comfortable enough that you WON'T leave it behind. Don't carry around all kinds of stuff you arn't going to need, take out everything from your pack, look at it, and make sure that you actually need it.
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| Tue Dec 09, 2008 10:00 am |
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flashlightfreak9
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Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 4406 Location: Sweet Home Alabama!!! |
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Yeah, I do that all the time. It's constantly a balance between needs and how much weight you can carry. The current configuration suits me well. 
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| Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:28 pm |
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linsleyk
Cook Islands Survivor

Joined: 03 Sep 2007 Posts: 2430 Location: Washington |
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all great points. 
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| Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:10 pm |
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Cliff N
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Joined: 23 Jun 2007 Posts: 423 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio |
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One of the downsides to any piece of gear for me is if whatever it is only has one practical use.
I like stuff that can be used for multiple things.
Duct tape-paracord-aluminum foil-plastic bags-a good knife are all fairly light weight , but cover a BUNCH of necessaties.
On the other hand , things like binoculars-rope-batteries or any gear that's bigger than it needs to be are likely to become a burden.
The fact that I might actually need some of that stuff is what makes me carry it.
I guess it depends on what I'm setting out for & if I'll be alone or with someone else.
Alone you need to carry a wider range of stuff & you need to make some decisions about what to haul, but if someone is with you , the two of you can share the load.
It's nice to have one person carry the water for the both of you for example & I try not to have each person carrying duplicates of the same stuff. One guy carries the big knife & the other one carries the little knife. Kinda like a team approach. Switch off if you feel like it.
As long as you stay relativly close together it works.
Cliff
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| Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:22 am |
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Drummer Dave
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Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 5684 Location: B.C West Coast, Canada |
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All gear is a pain in the Butt
I want a magic wand so i can just say " Abracadabra " i want Fire ! .... Shelter !,.....food cooking !
Oh ya, totaly sweet man 
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| Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:34 am |
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Cliff N
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Joined: 23 Jun 2007 Posts: 423 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio |
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I want a magic wand so i can just say " Abracadabra " i want Fire ! .... Shelter !,.....food cooking ! |
You mean to tell us that you don't have one of those yet ?????
I think that's a hint for everyone as to what Dave wants for Christmas
Check at WalMart...I'm sure they sell SOMETHING like that
Cliff
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| Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:31 am |
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Drummer Dave
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^ Not a Harry Potter one, Its got to be a Survival magic wand 
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| Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:18 pm |
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flashlightfreak9
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Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 4406 Location: Sweet Home Alabama!!! |
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But of course.
Where can I buy mine? 
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| Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:55 pm |
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Cliff N
Canadian Planecrash Survivor

Joined: 23 Jun 2007 Posts: 423 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio |
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Ok...so if anyone is out in the woods & sees a guy prancing around with a Magic Wand , it could be........never mind.
Cliff
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| Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:33 pm |
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Drummer Dave
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Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 5684 Location: B.C West Coast, Canada |
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I dont prance ......... i Frolic Why you Little !
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| Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:59 pm |
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Fonly
Residential Knife Guy

Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 759 Location: Northern alberta |
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not much better dave........ 
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| Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:15 pm |
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Drummer Dave
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Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 5684 Location: B.C West Coast, Canada |
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not much better dave........  | LOL ..... No Doubt. For the record, ive never " Pranced " or " Froliced "
Im just a lean mean Hiking Survival Machine
>> Now lets stay on Topic << 
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| Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:50 pm |
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Winter
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Joined: 10 Sep 2007 Posts: 211
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Definetly agree with the led flashlight problem, but I have a solution! I carry both a petzl tikka plus headlamp and a dorcy 1watt hawkeye. The tikka plus suffers from total inability to focus, but is good for short range area illumination. It has three brightness settings and a strobe feature. On the lowest setting (and lets face it, sometimes you just need some kind of light, any light.) it runs 150 hours on 3 AAAs (which probably weigh as much as the housing and strap). The dorcy hawkeye is heavy compared to the tikka, but is still very light versus, say, a maglite. Since it has a single high power led, it can use a reflector to give a pretty focused, long range beam. It makes the tikka look pale in comparison. On 3 AAAs, it runs 25 hours.
Because they're both AAA, I can swap batteries at will and one set of spares can go in either.
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