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turd
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Joined: 06 Mar 2007 Posts: 1953 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada |
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Awhile ago I made some charred cloth, so I thought I would show some pics
It's easy to make. All I did was cut an old pair of boxers into circles (100% cotton).
And drilled a 1/16" hole in the top of a pellet tin.
Then you put it into the fire (I just put it in the hot coals):
Take the tin out ~3 minutes after the hole stops smoking:
And thats it
eric
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| Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:39 pm |
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Foxfire
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Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 86 Location: Vancouver, BC |
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Very cool. How does it work as a fire starter? I was a little skeptical of the whole process when Les was explaining it, but really I thought the most difficult part would be to char a decent portion of cloth without just burning it. If it's as easy as putting it in an enclosed tin with an air hole maybe there's more to the whole thing.
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| Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:28 pm |
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turd
Cook Islands Survivor

Joined: 06 Mar 2007 Posts: 1953 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada |
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There's nothing to it. Just don't put to big of a hole in it, or it might start burning.
And it's ok if the smoke that starts shouting out catches fire.
I think it took 30 to 45 minutes for the smoke to stop, because I put a lot of cloth in there
It can catch a light from the smallest spark and is very easy to light with a mag. lens.
eric
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| Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:47 pm |
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TrooperMax
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Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Posts: 3588 Location: Orleans, Ontario, Canada |
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Thats awesome turd good post, we havnt had any light shed on the charred cloth topic yet so its nice of you to bring it up
Charred cloth is interesting indeed, i'mgoing to play around with it myself soon 
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| Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:51 pm |
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turd
Cook Islands Survivor

Joined: 06 Mar 2007 Posts: 1953 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada |
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It's really fun stuff to play with
Oh, and canola oil worked very well to remove the stickers from the tin
eric
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| Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:04 pm |
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turd
Cook Islands Survivor

Joined: 06 Mar 2007 Posts: 1953 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada |
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Here's two more crappy pics
eric
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| Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:13 pm |
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Normark
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Joined: 26 Apr 2007 Posts: 236
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Hey Guys...
Eric...
Nice job..
Only one thing I would add though...
You Must let the tin cool Completely before you remove it from the fire..
If you don't and open it too soon,, it will self combust and your entire batch will be lost
I lost a whole coffee can full of char cloth..
It took me over an hour to cut up a pair of 100% cotton blue jeans into 2" X 2" squares...
I removed the can,, let it cool to the touch and removed the lid..
Everything looked good and I set the can down..
Meerly by accident I went by the can and could feel the heat coming from it..
The entire batch was engulf in Hot coal..
Keep in mind that once the cotton is reduced to charcoal, it has No smell when it burns, just HEAT. It burns Very clean, and VERY hot!
It could easily started a fire if I hadn't caught it...
I suggest leaving the tin alone for at least an hour,, more if you are making large quantities.
A coffee can should be left overnight, outside,, somewhere safe. Inside a BBQ is perfect...
Nice Tut though for sure!
ttyle
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| Wed May 16, 2007 7:59 pm |
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turd
Cook Islands Survivor

Joined: 06 Mar 2007 Posts: 1953 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada |
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 |  | Only one thing I would add though...
You Must let the tin cool Completely before you remove it from the fire.. | I had just a small pellet tin and I put it in the snow so it cooled down very fast. I opened it after it sat in the snow for 5-10 minutes. But yeah, let it cool completely before you open it
 |  | I lost a whole coffee can full of char cloth..
It took me over an hour to cut up a pait of 100% cotton blue jeans into 2" X 2" square...
I removed the can,, let it cool to the touch and removed the lid..
Everything looked good and I set the can down..
Meerly by accident I went by the can and could feel the heat coming from it..
The entire batch was engulf in Hot coal.. | Thats to bad.
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eric
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| Wed May 16, 2007 8:19 pm |
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survivordan
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Joined: 06 Dec 2007 Posts: 21
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Just make sure you dont get any water in the tin with your cloth, or the whole batch will be ruined.
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| Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:51 pm |
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flashlightfreak9
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Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 4406 Location: Sweet Home Alabama!!! |
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Is it necessary to put a hole in it? 
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| Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:27 pm |
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Mystik Spiral
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Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 1663 Location: Tinker AFB, OK |
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Most definitely! I made some in those quart paint cans, and I didn't have enough holes in the lid, so it sounded like a jet engine. Next thing I know the lid blows off and all of my char cloth starts burning in the fire. Luckily I recovered it. 
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| Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:33 pm |
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TrooperMax
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Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Posts: 3588 Location: Orleans, Ontario, Canada |
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Thats not char cloth, thats letal cloth
Your contraption sounds like quite the widowmaker
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| Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:07 pm |
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NorthernHunter
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Joined: 28 Apr 2007 Posts: 772 Location: Alberta, Canada |
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 |  | Very cool. How does it work as a fire starter? I was a little skeptical of the whole process when Les was explaining it, but really I thought the most difficult part would be to char a decent portion of cloth without just burning it. If it's as easy as putting it in an enclosed tin with an air hole maybe there's more to the whole thing. |
this is how i made mine
it works very well and it only took me about 5-10min to make and i packed my tin with cloth i would just pull it out and check it and if it wasnt all black i would move it around and take the done stuff out and put it back in the fire but i only had to do that once.
here is a video i made with my crap camera but it shows how well it really works

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| Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:48 pm |
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flashlightfreak9
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Most definitely! I made some in those quart paint cans, and I didn't have enough holes in the lid, so it sounded like a jet engine. Next thing I know the lid blows off and all of my char cloth starts burning in the fire. Luckily I recovered it.  |
I was wondering because I don't want a hole in my tin. I want to store the charcloth in it after I make it. Oh well, I'll just have to deal with it. 
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| Tue Mar 18, 2008 5:31 pm |
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Colt
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Joined: 28 May 2007 Posts: 207 Location: Maryland USA |
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Would an Altoids can work?
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| Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:51 pm |
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Mystik Spiral
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Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 1663 Location: Tinker AFB, OK |
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That's a common char cloth tin to use. With that the seams are loose so you wont have to put a hole in the container. And flashlight once you're done burning char cloth in you container you wont want to touch it much. It turns black and flaky, and is really messy. Film canisters, plastic bags, or altoid tins work good to store it in too.
Char cloth is my favorite firestarter, because you can't blow it out and it gets as hot as an ember in the fire. I set a peice on a log one time and blew on it, and it made a nice black mark in it. I find old jeans to work the best because it stays more rigid once you're done. Socks I tried because Woodsman did that. The elastic bands melt, and make it hard to light. Good luck, make lots!! 
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Drummer Dave
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Great vid Bill. Is it ever green there ? 
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NorthernHunter
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Joined: 28 Apr 2007 Posts: 772 Location: Alberta, Canada |
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flashlightfreak9
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I read in a book somewhere you can use an open coffee tin on an electric hot plate. I was thinking of trying that. We don't have fires often, so... I don't think that would make the tin unusable.
I'm going to use old blue jeans. I usually disassemble old jeans and make stuff like pillows out of them, so I had plenty of it to use.
The tin is 4"x5"x1". A wallet came in it. That's where I got it. It seems sturdy enough to use. In fact, it looks the same as the one NH used.
And I'm making lots.
But would a hot plate work?
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| Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:44 am |
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Mystik Spiral
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Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 1663 Location: Tinker AFB, OK |
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 |  | I read in a book somewhere you can use an open coffee tin on an electric hot plate. I was thinking of trying that. We don't have fires often, so... I don't think that would make the tin unusable.
I'm going to use old blue jeans. I usually disassemble old jeans and make stuff like pillows out of them, so I had plenty of it to use.
The tin is 4"x5"x1". A wallet came in it. That's where I got it. It seems sturdy enough to use. In fact, it looks the same as the one NH used.
And I'm making lots.
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Not sure if a hot plate would work. One thing you have to do is bury the container after it's done in the fire. That's to cut off the air so it doesn't burn and turn to ash. If you take it out of the fire and remove the lid your char cloth will ignite, and you'll see it glowing red. It will burn until it's all ash too. If you try the hot plate it will probably take longer, and I'd let it cool down before you open the lid. BTW remember there's going to be smoke, so you'll want to do it outside. Happy char cloth makin'!!
I just remembered that I still have 3 small 12oz. coffee cans full of char cloth. 
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