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Tim
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Joined: 09 Oct 2006 Posts: 28 Location: Pennsylvania |
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Anyone have the Henry US Survival 22? |
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Anyone have one of these guns? The Henry US Survival 22. It's the one that breaks into 3 pieces and the other 2 pieces store in the stock of the gun. It's like 18 inches long stored.
http://henryrepeating.com/survival.cfm
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| Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:42 pm |
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Daffy
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Joined: 24 Sep 2006 Posts: 1243 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada |
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I have look'd at this gun online and in cataloges. I personally would stay away from it just because of how easy is disosembles and packs away. I have no reason to not like them, just have a bad feeling about them wich is enough to keep me away. If you plan on hunting I would suggest a more hunting designed gun rather than a pack away survival one. if you had a shoulder strap you could carry it without it make'n your arms sore. If you are worried about weight there are many light .22's. I have two Ruger 10/22's (one is the basic hardwood stock, the other is the delux with the walnut stock) and i find them really light. They also come from the factory with studs for a sling. Im not say'n that this is the best .22 there is, but it is my favorite so far. However, if your wanting one that packs away neatly and assembles easily I can't really help yea!
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| Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:48 pm |
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Drummer Dave
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Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 3745 Location: B.C West Coast, Canada |
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No, i dont have a Henry 22. . But did just get the new Henry 2007 catologe .
My brother has borrowed the book, A WEEK AGO ! bugger. But im very interested in getting the folding stock camo, backpacking one. 
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| Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:10 pm |
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Tim
Survival Enthusiast

Joined: 09 Oct 2006 Posts: 28 Location: Pennsylvania |
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Yeah I wasn't thinking of hunting with it, I think it's cool cause it breaks down really small, like good for backpacking or something. I have a Ruger too, a 45 acp I love it.
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| Sat Oct 21, 2006 4:43 pm |
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carcajou garou
Boreal Forest Survivor
Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 77
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This firearm was originaly fabricated by Armalite for survival situations such as the cockpit of a small plane, an inshore watercraft, a canoe trek, hiker who really wouldn't be hunting per say until they were forced to. This firearm was watertight, self storing, carried extra amo, had peepsights, could have a sling attached when needed, quite effecient in its day. It was chambered for the .22lr. Today many prefer the springfield version of a survival rifle, in .22lr and 410ga, single shot with a selector switch, tougher but not as conpact.
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| Thu Nov 23, 2006 6:24 pm |
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Azarcher
Arizona Survivor

Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 507 Location: Chandler, Arizona |
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Just to bump a long dead thread. I personally don't like the henry survival gun. I feel that anything that has survival in it's name can't be all that great. But besides that, the stock is just plain huge to me, and I can never get a comfortable grip on it. It also uses magazines, which can be easily lost rendering the gun a lot less useful, and a real PITA to shoot. I guess if I had a big boat I would toss it in there, because it is suppost to float because of that huge stock. Not to mention that I've found the trigger guard to be a little on the small side which makes shooting with gloves on a little hard. What I do like as a true survival gun is the old M6. It was designed from the ground up as a true survival gun. AS mentioned above it's not as compact, but allows a lot more use if it was needed. The trigger was designed so no matter how thick of gloves you were wearing you could still squeeze the trigger. It does break down into two pieces by just pulling the selector out I believe. They use to come in 22/410, and a 22hornet/410. They quit making them though which is a total shame but they are still available through different online sites. I personally really want one of the 22 hornet versions to keep in the back seat of my truck. 
_________________ Where the Eagles fly, and the Caribou lie is where I want to be, the Wolf waits there for me.....
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| Sun May 27, 2007 8:47 am |
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Dobry
Kalahari Desert Survivor

Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 513 Location: Kansas/Missouri/Arkansas |
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I had thought off-and-on about one of those Henry rifles, because of backpacking ease... but I've been thinking I'd probably opt for one of the .410/.22 combination guns. I'm only familiar with Savage's, and the Russian Baikal IZH-94. I really haven't searched for them though, have little knowledge of how good they are, or if they're easily available.
I figure the most likely use would be for plinking small-to-medium woodland creatures for food. Which would be what I'd mainly need it for anyway in a survival situation somewhere.
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| Sun May 27, 2007 3:01 pm |
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turd
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Joined: 06 Mar 2007 Posts: 1846 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada |
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Heres something that might help
eric
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| Sun May 27, 2007 3:17 pm |
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Dobry
Kalahari Desert Survivor

Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 513 Location: Kansas/Missouri/Arkansas |
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Interesting article... hmmm... let me think on this one. I see and understand their argument against higher-calibers (and saving substantial weight), certainly at least against smaller game with a .22 pistol and a red dot at close range. Hmm.
For me I think I'd feel more confident and comfortable with a rifle and/or shotgun if I was stuck and lost somewhere in the wilderness.
Gotta think on this one.
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| Sun May 27, 2007 3:56 pm |
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Azarcher
Arizona Survivor

Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 507 Location: Chandler, Arizona |
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+1 I love my M590 shotgun to death. It is ussually loaded next to my bed, or in my truck. The versatility of a good 12 ga with a bayonet is outstanding.
_________________ Where the Eagles fly, and the Caribou lie is where I want to be, the Wolf waits there for me.....
-Les Stroud
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| Sun May 27, 2007 3:59 pm |
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Dobry
Kalahari Desert Survivor

Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 513 Location: Kansas/Missouri/Arkansas |
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 |  | +1 I love my M590 shotgun to death. It is ussually loaded next to my bed, or in my truck. The versatility of a good 12 ga with a bayonet is outstanding. |
Great all-around shotgun, for defense/military/law enforcement... but is it practical to use for small-game use in I-need-some-food situations?
Ideally in lost/survival situations I'd like to have a reliable 12g shotgun, high-caliber rifle, and a good pistol with a laser-dot (.22 would work well in this role). But this isn't realistic for say, a B.O.B. in my trunk for example. The weight would be a major problem. And a State Trooper stopping me would be convinced I'm not a very nice guy (which I am ).
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| Sun May 27, 2007 4:09 pm |
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Azarcher
Arizona Survivor

Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 507 Location: Chandler, Arizona |
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Actually I think it is very practical when used correctly. I have four of the "mini shot shells" that were meant as a novelty, but they work great on small game! They are slow to load, but work great, even at 10 yards or so. I've taken many rabbits with them and the meat has never been beat up too bad. Now if I hit them with a .50 hollow point slug there may not be much left, but that is reserved for much larger game. Squirels have been hunted with a 12ga shooting number 2 shot for a long time with great success. If I had to grab one gun and run with it, it would definatly be a shotgun over any of my other guns.
_________________ Where the Eagles fly, and the Caribou lie is where I want to be, the Wolf waits there for me.....
-Les Stroud
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| Sun May 27, 2007 4:14 pm |
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Dobry
Kalahari Desert Survivor

Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 513 Location: Kansas/Missouri/Arkansas |
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Yep, Azarcher...
I do have to agree with you. If I could only grab one firearm, I'd grab a reliable 12g. The "multi-tool" of firearms, for many situations.
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| Sun May 27, 2007 4:25 pm |
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Daffy
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Joined: 24 Sep 2006 Posts: 1243 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada |
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a 12 ga. will kill any game in north america with the propper ammunition.
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| Sun May 27, 2007 8:36 pm |
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Dobry
Kalahari Desert Survivor

Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 513 Location: Kansas/Missouri/Arkansas |
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Not sure how a 12g would fare against an angry grizzly... but on the other hand I don't plan on finding out! 
_________________ "Asinus sęculę maximus." |
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| Mon May 28, 2007 3:13 am |
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Dobry
Kalahari Desert Survivor

Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 513 Location: Kansas/Missouri/Arkansas |
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 |  | Actually I think it is very practical when used correctly. I have four of the "mini shot shells" that were meant as a novelty, but they work great on small game! They are slow to load, but work great, even at 10 yards or so. I've taken many rabbits with them and the meat has never been beat up too bad. Now if I hit them with a .50 hollow point slug there may not be much left, but that is reserved for much larger game. Squirels have been hunted with a 12ga shooting number 2 shot for a long time with great success. If I had to grab one gun and run with it, it would definatly be a shotgun over any of my other guns. |
Yep, kick me for not thinking!... just now dawned on me of course after a good night's sleep, and the Shiner beer has worn off... I've been hunting itty-bitty birdies for years with a 12g, and nary a problem... except for the occasional birdshot-I-bite-into... so should be no problem not disintegrating small-game for a tasty meal.
I'm just used to hunting small critters with a .22 or .410, that's how I was raised, so please forgive me guys.
Next question... any preference on choke, for an all-around survival 12g? Just curious.
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| Mon May 28, 2007 3:36 am |
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Daffy
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Joined: 24 Sep 2006 Posts: 1243 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada |
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for all around i'd consider an improved cylinder, but it would really limit your range when using shot. I have the invector choke system for my bps, consisting of a full (lead only) choke, a modified lead (full steel) choke, and an improved cylinder lead (modified steel) choke. At 100 yards I was holding tight enough groups with a slug through the improved cylinder that the holes were touching each other on their edges. Up close with the full choke and shot i tear the heads off grouse without any shot in the body. That really doesnt' answer what choke to take, but yea I'd suggest a variety of chokes, and an investment in a choke speed wrench (as opposed to the factory issued choke tube wrench.
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| Mon May 28, 2007 11:09 am |
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Azarcher
Arizona Survivor

Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 507 Location: Chandler, Arizona |
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All of my shotguns (except one) have no chokes at all. I guess that is called a "CYLINDER BORE." I found that for swapping different loads quickly it is the best for me. I have never had a problem with the shorter 18.5" barrel on two of my shotguns while hunting with them, and infact just used one to take my turkey earlier this month.
_________________ Where the Eagles fly, and the Caribou lie is where I want to be, the Wolf waits there for me.....
-Les Stroud
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| Mon May 28, 2007 12:17 pm |
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Daffy
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Joined: 24 Sep 2006 Posts: 1243 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada |
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18.5 cylinder bore eh? You using the 870 marine magnum? man i'm in love with that shotgun. if not, what type/modle are you using that has an 18.5 barrel?
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| Mon May 28, 2007 8:13 pm |
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Azarcher
Arizona Survivor

Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 507 Location: Chandler, Arizona |
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A pair of "custom" Tactical 870, and a Mossy M590. I love those two guns to death, and don't think I could trade them.
_________________ Where the Eagles fly, and the Caribou lie is where I want to be, the Wolf waits there for me.....
-Les Stroud
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| Mon May 28, 2007 9:09 pm |
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