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ColdSoul
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This looks like your shelter Freak.
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flashlightfreak9
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Yep, that's it. 
Also known as an A-frame debris hut. 
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linsleyk
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thanks flf9 I will look in his book. spouse is everywhere and the windy season is coming so I can pick up boughs on my walks thanks. 
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Brian
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I like the two person, looks interesting, would have taken me a long time to think of doing it like that. Usually if I do a primitive camp with my brother, we just build two separate ones that share some debris in the middle. This might be more efficient...assuming we don't kill eachother in that small space 
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flashlightfreak9
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That is the only problem I see with a two-person shelter. 
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| Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:29 am |
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linsleyk
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and your body heat would keep you guys warm. do what my sister and I did when we shared a bed she had her side I had mine if anyone of us got over the side they would get hit.ouch!!!!!!!!
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ColdSoul
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Anytime your in a true survival situation in cold weather area you need to make one shelter for the group unless you have more than 10 people or so. The reason being is:
1) Share body warmth
2) Less firewood is used
3) Not as many fire to keep track of and keep going
4) It's easier to share the time in building the shelter with multiple people and coordinate in such a manner to make it more efficient.
there is prob more reasons as well...
Ray Mears spoke with a few of the survivors who lived in the woods for years fighting and hiding from the Germans in the Belarussian forest, and they mentioned those reasons for having shelters for 10-12 people IIRC. You can see the hollywood version in the movie "Defiance" which just came out recently.
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flashlightfreak9
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Yes, there are many advantages to having a mulit-person shelter.
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linsleyk
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plues you spend less energy
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TrooperMax
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The debris shelter takes a surprising long time to make if you dont have leaves. I prefer spruce boughs but it takes a while to make.
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Brian
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| | The debris shelter takes a surprising long time to make if you dont have leaves. I prefer spruce boughs but it takes a while to make. |
Actually it takes surprisingly long to make with leaves too...trust me. Unless you have the really fibrous leafed trees of which the leaves decompose slower, allowing greater floor accumulation, or in a large area of old deciduous trees. It takes me a good day to build one even in the deciduous areas around here...well it takes that amount of time to do it right with proper insulation thicknesses.
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linsleyk
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yeah sprouce boughs I like.and since I am short I don't need a big shelter.
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Brian
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| | yeah sprouce boughs I like.and since I am short I don't need a big shelter. |
Haha yeah that is the other factor. Being 6'4" I need A LOT of debris and everything to cover my shelter area.
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flashlightfreak9
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Yeah, it takes quite a bit of materials to cover a 6 foot + person. I had barely enough leaves.
Get at least a 10 foot ridgepole, Kim. It sounds like too much, but your feet won't be at the very end. You lose some of that length. And if you have enough extra, you can have a small area at the front where you can sit up or change clothes. I thought I would have extra, but it was just enough. Next time(if I have enough materials to cover it), I'll get a 20 foot ridgepole.
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linsleyk
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a ten foot ridge pool sounds great I like extra room thanks well do.
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somehobo
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My favourite shelter I ever stayed in was a quinzhee I stayed in (in my friend's yard) for about three weeks last winter (before it melted haha)... My friend took photos of it, but the camera borked them all up, so I've only got this artist's rendition:
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Drummer Dave
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LOL, great shelter rendition somehobo Welcome aboard !
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| Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:56 pm |
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flashlightfreak9
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^Ditto. Welcome.
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ColdSoul
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Welcome somehobo, nice artists rendition.
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Brian
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Welcome, and Quinzhees are cool shelters, shame the camera botched all the pictures
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