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CountFloyd
Survival Enthusiast
Joined: 29 Oct 2006 Posts: 7
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How about this scenario: You're out in the woods camping/hiking miles away from any road or town. After a long morning hike you settle down for a brief midday nap only to be awoken an hour later by howling winds and the smell of smoke. A quick scan reveals a huge wall of fire rolling towards you. The weather has been very dry lately and the brush is crisp. You realize given this and the winds you can never outrun the rapidly approaching flames. Lets assume you just have a simple camping tent and the only water within reach is a very shallow stream only a couple of inches deep. Also assume there are no caves that you know of. What would you do?
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| Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:25 pm |
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wildthing
Band geek

Joined: 03 Apr 2007 Posts: 657 Location: TN, U.S. |
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curl up in a ball and die. I have no idea what to do. that is a good situation...er...well a bad situation. you know what I mean. 
_________________ quote of the week: "Missed it by that much,"- Get Smart. |
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| Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:45 pm |
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NorthernHunter
Northern Alberta Survivor

Joined: 28 Apr 2007 Posts: 690 Location: Alberta, Canada |
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well i would ditch the dent cuz well thats just going to go POOF!!! as soon as a flame hits it lol. i would cut down trees with my chain saw that i keep in my pocket lol and build a little fire break and a wall of logs to slow the fire down then i would roll around in the water to get nice and wet then make a run for it 
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| Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:11 pm |
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Drummer Dave
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Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 3762 Location: B.C West Coast, Canada |
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Ditch the tent, run to the stream, roll in it till im soaked & " try " to run with the stream, that way if the fire became to close and i new i could no longer out run it i would just lay down in the stream & pray that i make it through 
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| Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:51 pm |
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Brian
Sea Survivor

Joined: 02 Jun 2007 Posts: 460 Location: Spencerport, New York |
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Well seeing as how I ran into this senario last summer with the exception of I could make it out, it was just a long haul if the roads got closed off, I would say either make a run for it, following the stream as DD said, or with the time I have, dig a pit in the stream as deep as I can get, hopefully enough to fit my body, and then wait it out or die 
_________________ We only have one Earth, take care of her and she will take care of you. ~ probably someone else |
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| Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:23 am |
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Survivor Kid 909
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Joined: 23 Sep 2006 Posts: 1507 Location: Iowa |
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I say ditch the tent, run to the stream, then run along it until flames are too close then swim. Unless the are on me, then I go all the way under 
_________________ -Thou may'st break, but shalt not bend me.
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| Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:25 am |
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flashlightfreak9
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Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 2899 Location: Sweet Home Alabama!!! |
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Get wet and try to make a fire break. If it fails, make a run for it.
_________________ Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend. - Prov. 27:17
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| Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:20 am |
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BushRat
Saugeen Survivor

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 830 Location: Toronto |
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Start a fire break a short distance up wind of the creek, and follow it until it crosses the creek. Lie in the creek until the main fire reaches where you started the break. It might burn out enough that you can head back upwind, to the area behind the front line of the fire.
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| Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:22 pm |
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flashlightfreak9
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Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 2899 Location: Sweet Home Alabama!!! |
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I didn't think about that. Getting behind the fire is a good idea. Depends on the exact circumstances, but anyway, thinking about these kind of things is good. 
_________________ Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend. - Prov. 27:17
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| Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:53 pm |
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wildthing
Band geek

Joined: 03 Apr 2007 Posts: 657 Location: TN, U.S. |
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hay maybe you could wet the tent and use it while you lie in the stream possibly. 
_________________ quote of the week: "Missed it by that much,"- Get Smart. |
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| Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:45 pm |
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linsleyk
Alaska Survivor

Joined: 03 Sep 2007 Posts: 954 Location: Washington |
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I like your idea wildthing can fire jump a stream 
_________________ I just heard something big crack�.. holy crap!-Les Stroud |
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| Mon Mar 10, 2008 5:42 pm |
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wildthing
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Joined: 03 Apr 2007 Posts: 657 Location: TN, U.S. |
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 |  | I like your idea wildthing can fire jump a stream  | yes if the wind is blowing that there is stuff that will burn on the other side
_________________ quote of the week: "Missed it by that much,"- Get Smart. |
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| Mon Mar 10, 2008 5:54 pm |
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flashlightfreak9
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Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 2899 Location: Sweet Home Alabama!!! |
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It depends on how wide the stream is, but yes, it can jump a stream. Even a fire break is not impervious to a forest fire. 
_________________ Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend. - Prov. 27:17
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| Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:15 am |
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BushRat
Saugeen Survivor

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 830 Location: Toronto |
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 |  | hay maybe you could wet the tent and use it while you lie in the stream possibly.  |
Also, when you're ready to leave the stream, maybe the tent can be used to carry a small amount of water so you can douse yourself or some flames when you're on the move.
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| Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:55 am |
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Askdamice
Utah Canyonland Survivor

Joined: 06 Apr 2007 Posts: 361 Location: Ontario, Canada |
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Someone mentioned making a fire break. By that did you mean start a second fire infront of the approaching fire? That's what popped into my head when I read the question. This is what I would do.....

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| Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:40 am |
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BushRat
Saugeen Survivor

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 830 Location: Toronto |
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That's it exactly, Askdamice. For those unfamiliar with fire breaks, what you do is deliberately burn an area downwind of a fire so that when the fire reaches that area it dies out because all the trees have already been burned. This is where the phrase "fight fire with fire" comes from. You would have to plan this carefully to avoid experiencing another phrase: "out of the frying pan and into the fire."
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| Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:59 pm |
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Askdamice
Utah Canyonland Survivor

Joined: 06 Apr 2007 Posts: 361 Location: Ontario, Canada |
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I thought that's what you were talking about.... first thing I thought of too. 
_________________ "Arrogance, I'm above that sort of thing." |
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| Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:12 pm |
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linsleyk
Alaska Survivor

Joined: 03 Sep 2007 Posts: 954 Location: Washington |
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great picture and discription of a fire break thanks 
_________________ I just heard something big crack�.. holy crap!-Les Stroud |
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| Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:12 pm |
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flashlightfreak9
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Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 2899 Location: Sweet Home Alabama!!! |
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You hit the nail on the head, Rick. 
_________________ Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend. - Prov. 27:17
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| Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:31 pm |
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Brian
Sea Survivor

Joined: 02 Jun 2007 Posts: 460 Location: Spencerport, New York |
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Well Rick that looks like a classic swarm tactic that the fire always takes, maybe you should laydown some suppression fire as well and try a flanking maneuver with your light infantry Nice drawing
_________________ We only have one Earth, take care of her and she will take care of you. ~ probably someone else |
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| Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:56 am |
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